Boxcar Bertha Reviews
It's ok enough. The acting is ok enough overall but no one except Bill is really given much character. Hershey is probably the strongest performance and isn't bad overall but she isn't given much backstory, motivations, or much dialouge even. Everyone else just kind of blends in. The cinematography isn't bad and is the best thing. Shots are well framed, the settings have a gritty low budget feel to them that works well, but the scenes themselves don't have a lot of compelling things going on. The worst part about this is the subpar editing. This is called boxcar bertha but if you asked me who the main character is, I'd have to say Big Bill is more the main character 60% of the time than Bertha. She doesn't get hardly any backstory, we don't see her grow up, rather we see her just do stuff in a crime adventure style plot. This can't decide if it wants to be a character study or a crime drama, heck it can't decide who the main focus is even. The plot does make sense though and is simple but never comelling and very standard stuff told in a subpar way. It truly feels like Bertha is forgotten about for most of the middle of this film and is more a vechile for telling Big Bill's story than anything. The pacing is ok enough though as this is really short for better or for worse and never overstays its welcome. Add in a generic harmonica track that plays through the entire runtime and you can see why there really isn't any reason to watch this. Even if your a fan of any actors in this. Skip it.
Martin Scorsese lacks the talent at this point to pull this off. Few signs of the legend he will become.
Other than a couple of stylistic flourishes and a Christ-like image at the end, there is not much in Martin Scorsese's Boxcar Bertha that would hint at his later successes, most notably Taxi Driver and Raging Bull, two classics that would be released in the decade following Boxcar Bertha. Backed by producer Roger Corman and the AIP studio, it's a low budget period piece that follows the exploits of Bertha (Barbara Hershey) and ‘Big' Bill (David Carradine) as they rob their way through the south. Other than decent performances from Hershey and Carradine and a catchy, albeit somewhat tiring, music score, there's really not much to see here. Much like the characters, the plot wanders about aimlessly, the editing is choppy and inconsistent, and the direction lacks Scorsese's usual confidence, understandable when one considers the measly budget.
This film is almost universally considered Scorsese's worst but personally I found a lot to like about it, most importantly the performance of the luminous Barbara Hershey. Scorsese made this film for $600,000 five years after the critical success of 1967's Who's That Knocking at My Door, this film received largely negative reviews and is viewed as a bump in the road before Mean Streets (1973) and Raging Bull (1980). No, the film is not perfect it has it's fair share of problems namely being a blatant rip-off of Bonnie and Clyde (1967) and being strangely paced. None of these flaws completely derail the film however and it is a beautiful, competently directed 90 minutes with a dazzling lead performance from one of the greatest actresses of the 1980s. The film is based upon the writings of Ben L. Reitman and the fugitives Bertha "Boxcar Bertha" Thompson, Barbara Hershey, and "Big" Bill Shelley, David Carradine and their adventures during the American Civil War. Shelley is a union leader who is imprisoned for his actions as a striker, Thompson becomes involved with the Yankee Rake Brown, Barry Primus, and she shoots his opponent after a particularly contentious poker game. Thompson and Brown break Shelley and his black friend Von Morton, Bernie Casey, out of prison and they all go on the run together and rob members of the upper class. When the fun and games come to an end Thompson is forced to reconsider her relationship with Shelley. The most disappointing aspects of the film are it's tawdry seemingly out-of-nowhere sex scenes and cheap violence. Hershey's sensitive performance is let down by the objectification of her body and the very un-sexy sex scenes in which real-life couple Carradine and Hershey cavort in unnatural ways. I myself have never had sexual intercourse but I have seen enough depictions of it to know that the awkward love scenes found her are not realistic or vaguely arousing. The violence is not particularly exciting, it all appears very fake, and it feels as though it cuts into what could have otherwise been a more interesting tale of lovers on the run. If Roger Corman's vision had been cut out of the film it would undoubtedly be a more satisfying experience. The plot elements all feel very clichà (C)d and Joyce and John Corrington's screenplay does not contain the gems found in Robert Benton's screenplay for the aforementioned 1967 film. The beauty of the film is found in the acting as Hershey, Morton and Casey bring a real sense of fun and electricity to the interactions between their characters despite the copied and pasted lines in the script. Scorsese is also able to add something special to the film with his lively camera work and pretty cinematography that captures the rich colors of the Southern environment. Scorsese and the cast are able to overcome the weaknesses of the screenplay and build a film that is quite entertaining and does not overstay it's welcome at just 87 minutes. Finally, I would like to talk about the beauty of a young Barbara Hershey. She is simply terrific, we are dazzled by her the moment we first see her, scratching her leg as she is admired by David Carradine. She proves that she is not just a great beauty throughout the rest of the film as she is able to reap genuine emotion out of the final scene in which she pursues the crucified body of her lover. The star power is clear just four years into Hershey's career and she elevates the film from just another piece of exploitation cinema to a richly textured, emotional piece of drama. The supporting actors are fine, Carradine is rather weak but he doesn't really have to act. Primus is rather funny as the weak Yankee and Casey gives a performance that is more than the â~magical negro' stereotype, they both craft characters that we really care about, unlike Gangs of New York (2002). It is a testament to their acting ability that we are interested in their characters as again they are given very little interesting dialogue. I really liked this film despite itself and the spirited performances really lifted the film. The cinematography and Scorsese's direction exceeded the beauty of the material they were working with. It was definitely one of the more accessible films found in Scorsese's filmography and I am not going to lie I had real fun watching it. That caused me to place it at thirteenth but I understand why some will disagree with me.
i thought it was great
As coisas acontecem por acontecer, na maioria das vezes sem nenhum motivo plausível ou convincente, mas com uma boa direção do Martin Scorsese, você consegue apreciar varias cenas bem dirigidas. O filme é mediano.
Martin Scorsese is one of the greatest directors of all time, but it wasn't always that way. Back in the early 1970's he was still finding his way and trying some techniques out. While Boxcar Bertha is nowhere near the quality of Scorsese's later efforts, you can tell there was talent there, just waiting to be exploited. Boxcar Bertha tells the fictional account of two lovers, a union leader and a loner, who find pleasure taking up crime to seek vengeance on what railroad management has done to them. David Carradine and Barbara Hershey star, as Scorsese directs his second feature length film. With plenty of similarities to Badlands or even Bonnie and Clyde, it's hard to figure out exactly what this film has to offer. In reality, it doesn't bring anything new to the genre, nor is the acting all that impressive. With that said, because of where Scorsese is today, it's worth watching. There are plenty of intriguing shots used by the famed director that he would use later on, or even just certain transitions from scene to scene. As a film geek, that was interesting to see. But as far as the film itself, I don't know that you would get anything out of this story. Just go watch Badlands again. That's a much more fascinating take on two young people taking up murder and crime in the west. +Scorsese trying things out -Nothing new added to this style of a story -Acting is sub-par 4.6/10
the 70's were the peak years 4 roger corman why? cos he surrounded himself with amazing talent this is directed by scorsese features master character actor from hollywood's golden era john carradine & his son david (kill bill)& the gr8 barbara hershey (beaches)
The winsome harmonica that opens Martin Scorsese's second feature film, Boxcar Bertha, should be all the indication you need that it isn't the kind of movie we've come to expect from the king of the gangster flick. Boxcar Bertha is Southern-fried pulp through and through. From the characters' unmistakable drawl and the incessant sound of buzzing cicadas to the clingy sundresses to the gentlemanly suits and hats, the film is nothing if not a spot-on (though slightly overexaggerated) study of a time and place. But Boxcar Bertha has grander intentions. It's story is one of desperation and principles. To what end will a man stand up for what he believes in? And to what end should he? These are the questions Scorsese and company try to answer over a period of 90 minutes. They succeed to a degree, but the film isn't quite focused enough. Producer Roger Corman's influence is front and center as the film devolves into a sex-filled exercise in exploitation cinema, which distracts mightily from Boxcar Bertha's primary dramatic thrust. Barbara Hershey plays the film's titular character who, in the film's opening scene, is orphaned when her father-a crop duster-crashes his plane. She's consoled by a black man, Von Morton (Bernie Casey), and the head of the local union, Big Bill Shelly (David Carradine). Quickly, her relationship with Bill becomes sexual, but the two are separated, as Bill's union leadership puts him constantly at odds with the law. While separated, Bertha meets a Yankee, Rake Brown (Barry Primus), who fashions himself a con man, but isn't much more than a card cheat. She helps him with his Southern accent, and the two try to rip off a local railroad baron. But it goes disastrously wrong when the man starts talking about killing Big Bill. Bertha shoots the man, they track Bill down, and hitch a ride to safety on a boxcar. Later, the trio hooks up with Von, and this new group of four starts robbing uber-wealthy Southerners. Big Bill, however, doesn't like the practice. He fashions himself an honest man, and he wants to fight for justice without taking advantage. But the more these people are put up against it, the more acceptable their behavior feels. With a title like Boxcar Bertha, one would assume the focal point of the film would, in fact, be Bertha. That's a surprisingly debatable point. Big Bill's journey from a principled leader to a reluctant thief plays as heavily into the outcome of Boxcar Bertha as Bertha's own journey from naive daddy's girl to prostitute and ganger leader. And one can only be thankful that it does. Bertha is a disappointingly lame character, and Barbara Hershey isn't quite able to make her jump off the screen at us. David Carradine, meanwhile, performs with real gravitas. His character is very interesting; Without him, there might not be much reason to care. When the film focuses on Bill, or even when it splits time between he and Bertha, it's pretty engaging. Unfortunately, they're an ill-fated duo that spends as much time separated by circumstance as it does together. The film tends to grind to a halt during these sequences of separation. Ditto time spent with Rake and Von. Neither of these individuals is clearly motivated, making them seem more like tagalongs than anything else. Rake, especially, starts off with plenty of defined attributes and goals, but they never amount to anything. It's the kind of thing Scorsese never really does anymore, but this is his second film, and he's still working out the kinks of 90-minute-plus storytelling. That said, Boxcar Bertha (despite not exactly feeling like Scorsese's heart is into this in the same way) is a step up from his debut, Who's That Knocking at My Door. The cinematographic choices are occasionally fascinating, and the film's ending is a real doozy. What comes next is one of the director's most beloved features, so things won't ever really be the same. While that could be a tad sad in some instances (seeing small-scale director go big), there's no need to with Scorsese. Neither of his first two films holds a candle to his later works. http://www.johnlikesmovies.com/boxcar-bertha-review/
A really interesting film from a new director at the time, Martin Scorsese. It is his take on Bonnie and Clyde and he does a great job with it. Barbra Hershey is amazing and David Carradine does a good job as well but Hershey is the shining star here. Great screenplay, direction, score, and sound design.
Early Scorsese film which is not one of his best, but a interesting Roger Corman produced Bonnie and Clyde style exploitation flick which shows some of Scorsese's style that you would see more in his next flick after this, Mean Streets.
Before Martin Scorsese trolled the dark alleys, bars, cabs, and pool halls of the seedy New York City Districts, he made a project that was a little less personal when he shot Boxcar Bertha in 1972. That's not to say that it's a bad film, it's darn good in fact. It just feels like it wasn't exactly his dream picture. You can see little tidbits of his signature style laden throughout even though it sometimes feels like an all out action flick. There's a lingering notion that he just had to make this thing in general in order to get more opportunities to flex his directorial wings. It's also a small film developed by a B movie director. However, it's alive, ambitious, violent, cynical, and edgy. Taking a sort of Bonnie and Clyde approach, "Bertha" is no doubt a good old fashioned American movie. From the opening title sequence, you can immediately sense a rush of urgency and an aching need for a budding, genius filmmaker to get out. Taking place in the 1930's and based on a an autobiography entitled Sister of the Road, Boxcar Bertha is an account of Bertha Thompson (Barbara Hershey) and her lover Big Bill Shelly (David Carradine). They meet, become active train robbers (with the help of some other buddies), and reluctantly get involved in a murder of an important wealthy gambler. The film chronicles their intersecting lives as fugitives for a quick, fast paced 90 minutes. On a side note, "Bertha" is also an exercise that finds ways to make radical statements about race and gender issues. What's the point you ask? Well, from what I read about this vehicle's background, the railroad south relayed this culture throughout the aforementioned decade. As far as casting goes, Boxcar Bertha is significant in my mind because it's one those movies where you'd think that everyone in it would later go on to become A-list actors/actresses. One in particular, Barbara Hershey, gives a risky, fearless performance that should have catapulted her into superstardom. Yes, she's been a working actress for the last 40 years, but has never quite equaled her potential here. Watching "Bertha" you sense that she was wise beyond her years (she was only in her early 20's when filming began) not to mention adorable in every singular frame. Along with her, you have solid portrayals of vagabond robbers in David Carradine, Barry Primus (Rake Brown), and Bernie Casey (Von Morton). Again, these are respected actors that have hung around for a long time, just not entirely broken through. Something of note: no one is a bigger fan of Martin Scorsese than me, but I'll never figure out why there is never any controversy over his excessive use of racial slurs and overall lapses of racial bigotry in his films (Boxcar Bertha has a handful of it). When other directors make an attempt at it (Quentin Tarantino comes to mind), they get a lot of criticism from other films critics and even their peers. Scorsese somehow gets a pass. Now this is not a knock on the famed director, it's just one of the great mysteries of his work that I'll never quite understand. Another note: two actors that share a solid amount of screen time in "Bertha" (Harry Northup and the previously mentioned Carradine) are featured later on in Scorsese's classic, Mean Streets. What's strange is that they make unbelievably small appearances in that film. It's as if they got demoted (ha ha). No really, I'm not kidding, they literally have no lines whatsoever. Overall, Scorsese's second feature film has style and it's far from boring. This flick enthralls you from the get-go. I'd call it the movie equivalent of a sleeve of firecrackers. So to be honest, I'm not sure if a lot of you have taken in "Bertha" (I could be wrong). If you've viewed it, disregard the last comment. If you haven't, then give it a look-see. Oh and if you're wondering whether or not the world's greatest living director shows off with the camera (aggressively I might add), don't worry, you'll get that here. Boxcar Bertha is experimental, exhausting, and full of jump start energy (be aware of the ending though, it's not for the faint-hearted). The tagline for its poster reads, "life made her an outcast, love made her an outlaw." What can I say; I guess this movie "made" me a fan.
I was a bit worried when I heard that Scorsese had a film that was rotten on RT, but went into it open minded and wasn't disappointed. It features a very different style to most of his films and perhaps without this film and the advise from one of his friends we wouldn't have all his great films. Boxcar Bertha is an underrated and under appreciated classic!
Roger Corman produced Martin Scorsese's first studio film and it is seriously lacking in any hint of the brilliant filmmaker he would soon become. Like Francis Ford Coppola's first feature film, also for Corman, these are cheap exploitation films that were made to make money and not for the sake of film. This film was another attempt to cash in on the popularity of "Bonnie & Clyde" and features a good cast that includes Barbara Hershey, David Carradine, Bernie Casey, John Carradine and Victor Argo, but it's really just a competently made exploitation film. Even a Jack Hill exploitation film is more interesting that this, with is pretty surprising considering Scorsese's next film would be the brilliant "Mean Streets." Watch this film as a Samuel Z. Arkoff/Roger Corman film, not a Martin Scorsese film.
Personally, I loved this film. Great performances and direction from a young Martin Scorsese. A simple story, made on a low budget, but a nice insight into hobo life in 1930s America - with a heart-stopping ending.
Before Boxcar Bertha, Martin Scorsese had directed one feature film and a few shorts. Roger Corman offered him the chance to direct this film, one of the first crime dramas from Scorsese. This feature can viewed as an exercise in style for Scorsese as he was finding his groove that would later make him famous. This is a well executed gangster film that is very entertaining from beginning to end. Scorsese shows a knack for creating an engaging picture, and it is a very well directed movie that is elevated by its cast. Scorsese would go on to make several cinematic classics, but with Boxcar Bertha he really delivered something that showcased Scorsese's talents as an upcoming director. The film may be unfocused compared to his other works, but it does boast some early trademarks that would make Martin Scorse such a legendary figure in the cinematic medium. The story, I thought was quite good here, and it should a director that was just bursting with confidence and skill in order to create a memorable movie. Boxcar Bertha is not Scorsese's best of course, but it is a necessary film in his career, one that he needed to make to give himself an understanding of the gangster genre, which would be prominent in his works such as Mean Streets, Goodfellas and Casino. As a second full length feature, this is a terrific picture that needs to be seen by any Scorsese fan. The cast do some fine work here and even if it's not a standout gangster film, it's still fairly important in the career of Martin Scorsese, as he would follow up this picture with the phenomenal Mean Streets and three years later bring us the iconic Taxi Driver. Boxcar Bertha shows the viewer a director who was just getting started, and even with its imperfections, you can see where Scorsese was headed with his later work.
Scorsese's second film and only western, Boxcar Bertha is an entertaining yet not so fulfilling film. I'm not a big fan of this era, which I didn't let affect my rating, but Scorsese knows how to direct his camera around anything. He is a mastermind. The actors all did well and Hershey was great. The thing the movie lacked was a true desire to move forward. The script and story needed work.
Director Martin Scorsese's second film, made for $600,000 by B-movie mogul Roger Corman. Bad movie but in a good way; it is always a pleasure to watch important film careers develop. Scorsese would work again with the radiant Barbara Hershey in 1989's "The Last Temptation of Christ".